Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758353AbXFTSzO (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:55:14 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751087AbXFTSy6 (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:54:58 -0400 Received: from terminus.zytor.com ([192.83.249.54]:51682 "EHLO terminus.zytor.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751039AbXFTSy5 (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:54:57 -0400 Message-ID: <467977F7.2040506@zytor.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 11:54:47 -0700 From: "H. Peter Anvin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070419) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Poole CC: Tomas Neme , "Linux-Kernel@Vger. Kernel. Org" Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 References: <9a8748490706201034j43139301w5a18c172d688c724@mail.gmail.com> <2e6659dd0706201110x20fa5c28n5d6fc094e9f5c832@mail.gmail.com> <871wg6trnx.fsf@graviton.dyn.troilus.org> In-Reply-To: <871wg6trnx.fsf@graviton.dyn.troilus.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1155 Lines: 26 Michael Poole wrote: > Tomas Neme writes: > >> I have been following this discussion for the last week or so, and >> what I haven't been able to figure out is what the hell is the big >> deal with TiVO doing whatever they want to with their stupid design. >> They made a design, they build a machine, they sell it as is, and >> provide source code for GPL'ed software... what's your problem? > > It's simple: they don't provide _complete_ source code. They keep the > source code for the part of their Linux kernel images that provides > the functionality "runs on Tivo DVRs". The GPL requires that > distributors of binary versions provide complete source code, not just > the parts of source code that are convenient. > If true, that's a clear violation of the GPLv2, but it's very different from preventing the loading of modified images on their hardware (which appears to be permitted by v2.) -hpa - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/