Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752858AbXFTUZh (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:25:37 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750804AbXFTUZa (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:25:30 -0400 Received: from 24-75-174-210-st.chvlva.adelphia.net ([24.75.174.210]:51588 "EHLO sanosuke.troilus.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750815AbXFTUZ3 (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:25:29 -0400 To: "Tomas Neme" Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 References: <9a8748490706201034j43139301w5a18c172d688c724@mail.gmail.com> <2e6659dd0706201110x20fa5c28n5d6fc094e9f5c832@mail.gmail.com> <871wg6trnx.fsf@graviton.dyn.troilus.org> <2e6659dd0706201205i52e0b836oe642e2b442e425d7@mail.gmail.com> <87wsxysaad.fsf@graviton.dyn.troilus.org> <2e6659dd0706201302s6c83998fy96227e864ae55b9b@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Poole Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:25:29 -0400 In-Reply-To: <2e6659dd0706201302s6c83998fy96227e864ae55b9b@mail.gmail.com> (Tomas Neme's message of "Wed\, 20 Jun 2007 17\:02\:44 -0300") Message-ID: <87y7ieqsp2.fsf@graviton.dyn.troilus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1856 Lines: 46 Tomas Neme writes: >> A "computer program" is a set of statements or instructions to be >> used directly or indirectly in a computer in order to bring about >> a certain result. >> -- US Code, Title 17, Section 101 > > so? People keep arguing that the signature is somehow not part of the kernel or not subject to copyright law. I suspect they do not realize how broad the legal definition of "computer program" is. > Not GPL related, but casino machine software that needs to be approved > by the casino regulation office in Argentina need to provide source, > compiling instructions AND binaries, and the binaries must pass a diff > check. This is impossible without a hacked compiler since the > timestamps WILL differ. > > Just an example that legality doesn't always comply with itself, and > even less make sense. This discussion is about copyright and the GPL, not legal quirks. I am aware of a large number of silly results reached by law. > plus, and I repeat myself.. the program comes with no warranties whatsoever. > > and if your complains are purely moral, see it this way: if TiVo > didn't sign their kernel, digital cable providers wouldn't give them > their hash keys, and they wouldn't be able to show HD signals, > rendering them useless, and making them go bankrupt... so they'd go > BSD, because they ARE a company after all, and they are after The > Moneys.. > > no? The GPL does not guarantee anyone a viable business model. Following it is not conditional on profitability. It is only conditional on exercising rights that are granted by the GPL. Michael Poole - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/