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To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
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Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3
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From: Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@redhat.com>
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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:58:18 -0300
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On Jun 20, 2007, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:

> Alexandre Oliva wrote:
>> 
>>> b) the manufacturer is able to update the device _in_ _the_ _field_.
>> Sure, it would be more costly, but it's not like the
>> law (or the agreements in place) *mandate* tivoization.

> The sad part is that the FCC, especially, are pretty fond of doing
> exactly that.

<broken-record>
  It does not mandate the use of *copyleft* Free Software in non-ROM
  such a way that the user cannot modify it.
</broken-record>

> This comes more from a general cluelessness about technology

And the meaning of tivoization ;-)

Tivoization doesn't mean "user can't modify".  It's more than that.


But I agree with the feeling.  It's like mandating knife manufacturers
to design ways to stop people from hurting or killing others with
knives.  So much for self defense...

-- 
Alexandre Oliva         http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/
FSF Latin America Board Member         http://www.fsfla.org/
Red Hat Compiler Engineer   aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org}
Free Software Evangelist  oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org}
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