Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754681AbXFTVVa (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:21:30 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751246AbXFTVVX (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:21:23 -0400 Received: from dsl081-033-126.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.33.126]:39600 "EHLO bifrost.lang.hm" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752052AbXFTVVW (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:21:22 -0400 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:20:19 -0700 (PDT) From: david@lang.hm X-X-Sender: dlang@asgard.lang.hm To: Alexandre Oliva cc: Jesper Juhl , Linus Torvalds , Al Viro , Bernd Schmidt , Alan Cox , Ingo Molnar , Daniel Hazelton , Greg KH , debian developer , Tarkan Erimer , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <9a8748490706201034j43139301w5a18c172d688c724@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1330 Lines: 30 On Wed, 20 Jun 2007, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On Jun 20, 2007, "Jesper Juhl" wrote: > >> On 19/06/07, Alexandre Oliva wrote: >>> On Jun 18, 2007, Linus Torvalds wrote: >>>> In the GPLv3 world, we have already discussed in this thread how you can >>>> follow the GPLv3 by making the TECHNICALLY INFERIOR choice of using a ROM >>>> instead of using a flash device. >>> >>> Yes. This is one option that doesn't bring any benefits to anyone. >>> It maintains the status quo for users and the community, but it loses >>> the ability for the vendor to upgrade, fix or otherwise control the >>> users. Bad for the vendor. > >> Also bad for the user > > We already know the vendor doesn't care about the user, so why should > we take this into account when analyzing the reasoning of the vendor? no, we don't know this. you attribute the reason for the lockdown to be anti-user. others view it as being pro-user becouse it lets the user get functionality that they wouldn't have access to otherwise. David Lang - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/