Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 20:15:47 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 20:15:31 -0500 Received: from dsl-213-023-038-097.arcor-ip.net ([213.23.38.97]:65298 "EHLO starship.berlin") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 20:15:13 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Daniel Phillips To: Giacomo Catenazzi , David Woodhouse Subject: Re: [kbuild-devel] Converting the 2.5 kernel to kbuild 2.5 Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 02:17:11 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Cc: esr@thyrsus.com, kbuild-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20011204111115.A15160@thyrsus.com> <3C0CFF5F.3090404@dplanet.ch> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Message-Id: Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On December 4, 2001 06:50 pm, Daniel Phillips wrote: > On December 4, 2001 05:52 pm, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: > > I don't think esr changed non problematic rules, but one: > > all rules without help become automatically dependent to > > CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL. I don't like it, but I understand why > > he makes this decision. > > I love it. Having thought about this a little more, I don't think it's correct. It's cute and I still love the idea of forcing people to document - I sometimes imagine there exist contributors who make a point of not documenting - but the need for a clean design with as few corner cases as possible trumps that. Suppose I'm working on my patch, doing the part that hooks into config. It works, I can see my new feature, but for some strange reason the buttons are grayed out. After I fiddle a while I clue in to the idea that the 'experimental' setting might have something to do with it, I turn it on and then my buttons work. Now, what the? Eventually I figure out this is supposed to be a feature, not a bug, and that including some help will activate my buttons. So I curse the author up and down and submit a patch to remove that feature. This is a admittedly a small point and I'm not going to quibble about it any more. I'm happy the kbuild process is being cleaned up. I've wasted too much time due to shortcomings in the old one. I'll wait until this gets into the tree before submitting my patch ;-) -- Daniel - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/