Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756225AbXFTXtm (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Jun 2007 19:49:42 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753682AbXFTXte (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Jun 2007 19:49:34 -0400 Received: from mail1.webmaster.com ([216.152.64.169]:1906 "EHLO mail1.webmaster.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751945AbXFTXtd (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Jun 2007 19:49:33 -0400 From: "David Schwartz" To: Cc: "Tomas Neme" , , "Linux-Kernel@Vger. Kernel. Org" Subject: RE: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:48:48 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <161717d50706201634m68992ddeqb1d7557fb43c0822@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Importance: Normal X-Authenticated-Sender: joelkatz@webmaster.com X-Spam-Processed: mail1.webmaster.com, Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:49:15 -0700 (not processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) X-MDRemoteIP: 206.171.168.138 X-Return-Path: davids@webmaster.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Reply-To: davids@webmaster.com X-MDAV-Processed: mail1.webmaster.com, Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:49:17 -0700 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1547 Lines: 38 > This argument is the obvious nonsense. "Runs on TiVO" is a property of > the software that TiVO distributes -- such an important property that > it would be nonsensical for them to distribute it with their hardware. > But they do distribute it, and only the GPL allows them to. Why does the importance of the property matter to the validity of the argument? > Linus' key is not required to use the software Linus distributes under > the GPL, by contrast. Why does whether or not the key is required to use the software matter? It may be impossible to use a Linux kernel on a particular piece of hardware without the BIOS, that doesn't mean the BIOS source code is part of the kernel source code even if the kernel is shipped for that hardware. > > Tivo's choice is an authorization decision. It is similar to > > you not having > > root access to a Linux box. Sorry, you can't run a modified > > kernel on that > > machine, but you can still modify the kernel and run it on any hardware > > where authorization decisions don't stop you from doing so. The GPL was > > never about such authorization decisions. > Says judge Schwartz. Oops. That's right, you're not a judge in any > legal jurisdiction, nor an author of the GPL. Nice argument. I'm wrong because people can disagree with me. DS - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/