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Biederman" , Linus Torvalds , Alex Gaynor , Wedson Almeida Filho , Matthew Wilcox , Kees Cook , Miguel Ojeda , Konstantin Shelekhin , ojeda@kernel.org, ark.email@gmail.com, bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com, bobo1239@web.de, bonifaido@gmail.com, davidgow@google.com, dev@niklasmohrin.de, dsosnowski@dsosnowski.pl, foxhlchen@gmail.com, geofft@ldpreload.com, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, jarkko@kernel.org, john.m.baublitz@gmail.com, leseulartichaut@gmail.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, me@kloenk.de, milan@mdaverde.com, mjmouse9999@gmail.com, patches@lists.linux.dev, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, thesven73@gmail.com, viktor@v-gar.de, Andreas Hindborg Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 12/27] rust: add `kernel` crate Message-ID: References: <87a66uxcpc.fsf@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org> <20220920233947.0000345c@garyguo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 02:42:18AM -0400, comex wrote: > > > > On Sep 20, 2022, at 6:39 PM, Gary Guo wrote: > > > > It should be noted however, atomic context is not something that a > > token can represent. You can only use tokens to restrict what you *can* > > do, but not what you *can't* do. There is no negative reasoning with > > tokens, you can't create a function that can only be called when you > > don't have token. > > On the other hand, it ought to be feasible to implement that kind of > ’negative reasoning' as a custom lint. It might not work as well as > something built into the language, but it should work decently well, > and could serve as a prototype for a future built-in feature. Interesting, do you have an example somewhere? Regards, Boqun