Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758240AbXFUEbu (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 00:31:50 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756809AbXFUEa6 (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 00:30:58 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([66.187.233.31]:59233 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756737AbXFUEa5 (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 00:30:57 -0400 To: david@lang.hm Cc: Jesper Juhl , Linus Torvalds , Al Viro , Bernd Schmidt , Alan Cox , Ingo Molnar , Daniel Hazelton , Greg KH , debian developer , Tarkan Erimer , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 References: <9a8748490706201034j43139301w5a18c172d688c724@mail.gmail.com> From: Alexandre Oliva Organization: Red Hat OS Tools Group Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 01:30:09 -0300 In-Reply-To: (david@lang.hm's message of "Wed\, 20 Jun 2007 14\:20\:19 -0700 \(PDT\)") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.990 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1267 Lines: 28 On Jun 20, 2007, david@lang.hm wrote: > On Wed, 20 Jun 2007, Alexandre Oliva wrote: >> We already know the vendor doesn't care about the user, so why should >> we take this into account when analyzing the reasoning of the vendor? > no, we don't know this. you attribute the reason for the lockdown to > be anti-user. others view it as being pro-user becouse it lets the > user get functionality that they wouldn't have access to otherwise. Yeah, yeah, now please put your hands to the back such that I can place your handcuffs, such that you can't use your hands to kill someone. Well, you might still be able to use your hands for this purpose if you're really clever, or you can kill people by other means. But at least I'll be able to claim that I did my part. :-/ -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ FSF Latin America Board Member http://www.fsfla.org/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/