Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755342AbXFUFmS (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 01:42:18 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751658AbXFUFmJ (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 01:42:09 -0400 Received: from caffeine.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.134.17]:48023 "EHLO caffeine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751753AbXFUFmI (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 01:42:08 -0400 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:46:26 -0400 To: Manu Abraham Cc: Alexandre Oliva , Linus Torvalds , Greg KH , debian developer , "david@lang.hm" , Tarkan Erimer , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton , mingo@elte.hu Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 Message-ID: <20070620194626.GX10008@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> References: <20070610160531.GA12179@kroah.com> <20070612184110.GB7980@kroah.com> <20070613211432.GH10008@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> <20070614175305.GI10008@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> <4677F616.3080406@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4677F616.3080406@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) From: lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Lennart Sorensen) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1249 Lines: 27 On Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 07:28:22PM +0400, Manu Abraham wrote: > Well, it is not Tivo alone -- look at http://aminocom.com/ for an > example. If you want the kernel sources pay USD 50k and we will provide > the kernel sources, was their attitude. Hmm, set top boxes are often rented from the cable company rather than sold. Stupid grey area for sure. At least tivo does give you the sources, without demanding more money. Rather big difference. > Well, it is not Tivo alone, a large chunk of the vendors do that. The > vendors who actually do it the clean way are just few and can be counted > very easily. Well at least where I work we don't try to lock down the hardware, we do contribute our changes and bug fixes to upstream when it makes sense (and where our changes wouldn't make sense for upstream, they are still clearly included with the sources we have.) If a customer wants a copy of the sources, they will get a nice DVD, although strangely none have asked for one yet. -- Len Sorensen - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/