Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757071AbXFUNU1 (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 09:20:27 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755296AbXFUNUU (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 09:20:20 -0400 Received: from gprs189-60.eurotel.cz ([160.218.189.60]:39706 "EHLO amd.ucw.cz" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755292AbXFUNUT (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 09:20:19 -0400 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:20:08 +0200 From: Pavel Machek To: Stefan Seyfried Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" , nigel@nigel.suspend2.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, suspend-devel List , akpm@linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [Suspend-devel] [PATCH, 3rd try] make disable_console_suspend runtime configurable Message-ID: <20070621132008.GE18392@elf.ucw.cz> References: <20070613200303.GB11437@suse.de> <200706141414.22152.rjw@sisk.pl> <200706141559.54242.fseidel@suse.de> <200706150020.29189.rjw@sisk.pl> <20070617213530.GE1803@elf.ucw.cz> <20070617214940.GA1951@elf.ucw.cz> <20070618052747.GA15173@suse.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070618052747.GA15173@suse.de> X-Warning: Reading this can be dangerous to your mental health. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060126 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1168 Lines: 32 Hi! > > > Sorry for not screaming when CONFIG_DISABLE_CONSOLE_SUSPEND went in, > > > but please lets solve this correctly.... > > > > Ouch and sorry for not screaming at "try 1" time. But it still does > > not make the patch right, and I believe that even patch authors agree > > that "no-config-needed" is superior solution. > > No, i don't agree at all. > > In this case, "no config needed" == "not possible to debug suspend > problems". No, sorry. My proposed solution is "figure out which console drivers can survive being on while machines go down, and keep them on". So, "no config needed" == "kernel always does the right thing, keeping console during suspend when possible" == "possible to debug suspend problems without having to change CONFIG_ or /sys/*". Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/