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[2620:137:e000::1:20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id f15-20020a056a00228f00b0053e19dae4d3si7166851pfe.84.2022.09.22.07.01.06; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 07:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::1:20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@intel.com header.s=Intel header.b=juv2hUjj; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=intel.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S231276AbiIVNHk (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 22 Sep 2022 09:07:40 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:53144 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S230266AbiIVNHi (ORCPT ); Thu, 22 Sep 2022 09:07:38 -0400 Received: from mga18.intel.com (mga18.intel.com [134.134.136.126]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04967EBBC0; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 06:07:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=intel.com; i=@intel.com; q=dns/txt; s=Intel; t=1663852058; x=1695388058; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references: mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=NIiUludhaEiP1q42HoGcIondmm0hwzStdN7EzNx6+6k=; b=juv2hUjjNUBf4hGN3jCWrj+OGEyUqHH/JOjHd8wX+Et4J0X/c6pwPRNu BeMqHTFWXrQgupHexAC/a5mT5cyW4BK246oAUapzBKPMJmymhXfvsijdm Y08t0iLKhlvECFIDjRC5wmAYm3hHqts8rFX9DjPhXyxu4Y8K8OBqbB/JY GeMA9rJPCOnYnLmDLXPQjkDy4U6+lXvlmd3W+GAwbLJB4atGQSJIDOs5z Kyg/Z3lkBtNBgdyfXZXzLRjP2F6EvGQl26CHNuUUn0wSg8QIja6Pqp5mW Ygiul2CNI+I+uiptVVl2VenLLLniH4zdrNw5YG2X35SIbS/GykNvOEREl g==; X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="6500,9779,10478"; a="283343169" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.93,335,1654585200"; d="scan'208";a="283343169" Received: from fmsmga004.fm.intel.com ([10.253.24.48]) by orsmga106.jf.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 22 Sep 2022 06:06:31 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.93,335,1654585200"; d="scan'208";a="688286472" Received: from punajuuri.fi.intel.com (HELO paasikivi.fi.intel.com) ([10.237.72.43]) by fmsmga004-auth.fm.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 22 Sep 2022 06:06:26 -0700 Received: from paasikivi.fi.intel.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by paasikivi.fi.intel.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 88E4320075; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 16:06:24 +0300 (EEST) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2022 13:06:24 +0000 From: Sakari Ailus To: Greg KH Cc: Laurent Pinchart , Paul Menzel , Wang Yating , Christoph Jechlitschek , Hao Yao , Andy Yeh , Bingbu Cao , Tianshu Qiu , linux-media@vger.kernel.org, Mark Pearson , Dell.Client.Kernel@dell.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Guenter Roeck , Sergey Senozhatsky , Andy Whitcroft , Kai-Heng Feng , Christian Schaller , Wouter Bolsterlee , Miguel Palhas , it+linux-media@molgen.mpg.de Subject: Re: Missing MIPI IPU6 camera driver for Intel Alder Lake laptops Message-ID: References: <52c87d91-422d-fca0-4dd5-bbaa559c81b6@molgen.mpg.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_EF,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi Greg, others, On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 05:02:40PM +0200, Greg KH wrote: > On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 04:54:53PM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > > For the time being, I agree with your recommendation to not buy these > > devices if you care about camera support. > > I second this, don't buy these devices if the vendor is not willing to > get their drivers upstreamed properly. I can now confirm that IPU6 driver upstreaming is now planned, with IPU6 input system driver to be upstreamed first. The intent is that we would have patches for review on LMML around the end of the year. The processing system driver will need more work to replace the custom interface. For a fully functional camera stack, also libcamera support for IPU6 will be needed. I think I can say a major factor for why we're here is that the original intent was to use a different interface for upstream but as we don't have one yet and probably won't for quite some time, this doesn't really seem like a viable option anymore. So I'm afraid I can't promise a quick fix but at the same time I can say work is being done to address this. -- Kind regards, Sakari Ailus