Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757581AbXFUQeX (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:34:23 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755136AbXFUQeJ (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:34:09 -0400 Received: from caffeine.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.134.17]:40795 "EHLO caffeine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755096AbXFUQeH (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:34:07 -0400 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:34:04 -0400 To: Alexandre Oliva Cc: Tomas Neme , Andrew McKay , Alan Cox , Linus Torvalds , Al Viro , Bernd Schmidt , Ingo Molnar , Daniel Hazelton , Greg KH , debian developer , david@lang.hm, Tarkan Erimer , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 Message-ID: <20070621163404.GB10008@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> References: <4679557C.5080907@iders.ca> <20070620175627.319a6c55@the-village.bc.nu> <46797C52.4020907@iders.ca> <2e6659dd0706201414g3a6af30cvfb50720962e9dc1c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) From: lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Lennart Sorensen) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1250 Lines: 27 On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 01:23:01AM -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > And then the user who uses such features in ways not permitted by the > copyright holders are committing a crime. They can be prosecuted by > the copyright holders and convicted of the crime. Well we already clearly know the content providers in the US don't trust anyone else, and certainly don't think just using copyright laws to sue people who violate copyright is enough. No they want to put all sorts of things in place to try to prevent it from even being possible to violate copyright in the first place. They don't believe in innocent until proven guilty at all. > That TiVo can somehow become liable for this just shows how broken the > legal system in the US is. It's like making a knife manufacturer > liable for a killing using a knife they made, just because the knife > didn't have technical measures intended to prevent the knife from > being used to kill people. So much for "Land of the free". :( -- Len Sorensen - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/