Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 23:23:17 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 23:23:06 -0500 Received: from mail3.aracnet.com ([216.99.193.38]:9991 "EHLO mail3.aracnet.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 23:22:51 -0500 From: "M. Edward Borasky" To: Subject: RE: Over 4-way systems considered harmful :-) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 20:23:07 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > -----Original Message----- > From: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org > [mailto:linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org]On Behalf Of Todd Underwood > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 12:49 PM > To: M. Edward Borasky > Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > Subject: Re: Over 4-way systems considered harmful :-) > > folx, > > although i agree with the sentiment expressed below, i beg to differ... > > the CPlant (http://www.cs.sandia.gov/cplant/) system software (currently > built on top of Linux 2.2 but it's working now on 2.4 as well) is Open > Source (GPL). CPlant is built by Sandia National Labs (which could be > interpreted as "the military guys" is is currently one of the largest > Linux-based supercomputers in the world. The source for it is publicly > available and gives some interesting insight to what happens when you try > to scale beyond the "traditional" 32 or 64 processor cluster. > > Additionally, the same systems software is being used in at least one big > commercial application (for processing genetic information). > > my point here is not that building huge SMP machine makes sense > (obviously, for reasons that have been repeatedly reexplained by others > including Larry McVoy, it doesn't). my point is just that many parts of > the national security aparatus are playing well in the Linux kernel > development space these days and it's foolish to write them off. > > todd underwood, vp & cto > oso grande technologies, inc. > todd@osogrande.com > > "Those who give up essential liberties for temporary safety deserve > neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin Yes ... but ... it is interesting how quickly the priorities and policies of the National Laboratories can be "re-focused" with the change of the person residing at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and "other factors" :-). Been there ... done that ... got the scars :-). In short: "Moore's Law: good. Amdahl's Law: bad" :-) -- Take Your Trading to the Next Level! M. Edward Borasky, Meta-Trading Coach znmeb@borasky-research.net http://www.meta-trading-coach.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/meta-trading-coach - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/