Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758949AbXFUVOg (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:14:36 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756292AbXFUVO2 (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:14:28 -0400 Received: from cantor.suse.de ([195.135.220.2]:42339 "EHLO mx1.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755082AbXFUVO1 (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:14:27 -0400 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 23:14:19 +0200 From: Stefan Seyfried To: Pavel Machek Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" , nigel@nigel.suspend2.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, suspend-devel List , akpm@linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [Suspend-devel] [PATCH, 3rd try] make disable_console_suspend runtime configurable Message-ID: <20070621211419.GD31090@suse.de> References: <20070613200303.GB11437@suse.de> <200706141414.22152.rjw@sisk.pl> <200706141559.54242.fseidel@suse.de> <200706150020.29189.rjw@sisk.pl> <20070617213530.GE1803@elf.ucw.cz> <20070617214940.GA1951@elf.ucw.cz> <20070618052747.GA15173@suse.de> <20070621132008.GE18392@elf.ucw.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20070621132008.GE18392@elf.ucw.cz> X-Operating-System: openSUSE 10.3 (i586) Alpha5, Kernel 2.6.22-rc4-git6-2-default User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r804 (Linux) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1316 Lines: 34 On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 03:20:08PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote: > Hi! > > No, i don't agree at all. > > > > In this case, "no config needed" == "not possible to debug suspend > > problems". > > No, sorry. > > My proposed solution is "figure out which console drivers can survive > being on while machines go down, and keep them on". > > So, "no config needed" == "kernel always does the right thing, keeping > console during suspend when possible" == "possible to debug suspend > problems without having to change CONFIG_ or /sys/*". Ok. Deal. Once you fixed all the console drivers, i'll gladly send a patch that reverts the patch we are discussing now. Note that this patch actually helps fixing those drivers, since you can test much easier if a given driver survives suspend ;-) -- Stefan Seyfried QA / R&D Team Mobile Devices | "Any ideas, John?" SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, N?rnberg | "Well, surrounding them's out." This footer brought to you by insane German lawmakers: SUSE Linux Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/