Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758915AbXFUVeI (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:34:08 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756206AbXFUVd5 (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:33:57 -0400 Received: from [212.12.190.189] ([212.12.190.189]:33002 "EHLO raad.intranet" rhost-flags-FAIL-FAIL-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755883AbXFUVd4 (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:33:56 -0400 From: Al Boldi To: Adrian Bunk Subject: Re: How to improve the quality of the kernel? Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 00:33:13 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 Cc: Michal Piotrowski , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <200706180141.41101.a1426z@gawab.com> <200706211641.28504.a1426z@gawab.com> <20070621135744.GO12950@stusta.de> In-Reply-To: <20070621135744.GO12950@stusta.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200706220033.13932.a1426z@gawab.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1706 Lines: 48 Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 04:41:28PM +0300, Al Boldi wrote: > > Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > Talk is cheap, but unless YOU will do it your emails will only be a > > > waste of bandwidth. > > > > Thanks, and good luck with involving people with this kind of response! > > It's simply how kernel development works - not by talking but by doing > the work. This sounds like a brute-force approach, akin to hacking. I think it's much more productive to analyze the problem and then design a solution accordingly. > Many people thought long-term maintainance for 2.6.16 wouldn't make sense. > And I didn't start long discussions whether we need regression tracking - > I simply did it. Maybe because you are a PRO. > These are things that simply happened because I thought they were > important - and because I got my ass up to do them myself. > > Don't expect anyone to jump up to do it only because of your talk. > YOU must offer something, and it will work if it's then accepted by > people. > > If you think what you have in mind is both doable and important just do > it. You will find out where the problems lie yourself. > You might be able to prove me and all other people who think it would > not work wrong. > You might fail, e.g. because people will not adopt whatever you have in > mind because they don't like it for some reason, but that's part of how > development works, and you'll never know unless you try it. Thanks! -- Al - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/