Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759883AbXFUWDZ (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 18:03:25 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756997AbXFUWDO (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 18:03:14 -0400 Received: from outpipe-village-512-1.bc.nu ([81.2.110.250]:35805 "EHLO the-village.bc.nu" rhost-flags-OK-FAIL-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756954AbXFUWDN (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 18:03:13 -0400 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 23:08:58 +0100 From: Alan Cox To: =?UTF-8?B?Wm9sdMOhbg==?= HUBERT Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, =?UTF-8?B?Wm9sdMOhbg==?= HUBERT Subject: Re: Please release a stable kernel Linux 3.0 Message-ID: <20070621230858.2a0b1369@the-village.bc.nu> In-Reply-To: <200706212349.54983.zoltan.hubert@zzaero.com> References: <200706212349.54983.zoltan.hubert@zzaero.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.9.1 (GTK+ 2.10.8; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Organization: Red Hat UK Cyf., Amberley Place, 107-111 Peascod Street, Windsor, Berkshire, SL4 1TE, Y Deyrnas Gyfunol. Cofrestrwyd yng Nghymru a Lloegr o'r rhif cofrestru 3798903 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 867 Lines: 19 > and we all know this. The un-ending stable ABI argument > goes into this same direction. We don't have a stable ABI argument. Linus and others have repeatedly made this clear; Stable user space ABI is important (sysfs developers please note 8)). Stable kernel ABI/API not going to happen. > So I feel that a turning-point is coming where a really > really really (x 15) stable and reliable kernel is NEEDED. Its incredibly hard to keep a stable kernel side API/ABI by just backporting fixes. Fortunately you can pay vendors to do this for you and provide support, or if you just want the bits run stuff like Centos - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/