Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751260AbXFUWxc (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 18:53:32 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750869AbXFUWxW (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 18:53:22 -0400 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.187]:49874 "EHLO moutng.kundenserver.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750716AbXFUWxV (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 18:53:21 -0400 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Zolt=E1n_HUBERT?= To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Please release a stable kernel Linux 3.0 Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 00:57:33 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200706212349.54983.zoltan.hubert@zzaero.com> <9a8748490706211529yca0588dgd1f7e0b86f7e4a62@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9a8748490706211529yca0588dgd1f7e0b86f7e4a62@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200706220057.33984.zoltan.hubert@zzaero.com> X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18XMNY5/xQ2vQzgyr8t2/mGXqfxo5gI96tKr2I ovaxPc3Dmb2VN9e/i8X7idbV6yy3r7va1ulHzMBIc5NZdHo7G6 vbx7UGZkPa/rgh0+sKfBE3vgtMZHHTW Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1754 Lines: 62 On Friday 22 June 2007 00:29, Jesper Juhl wrote: > > You might think it's easy for me to simply "use" Linux > > and complain while you're doing the hard stuff. As it > > happens, the current development/stable model makes our > > life as "users" more and more difficult. > > In what way? Well, I'm using SuSE Pro 9.3 (excellent choice by the way), coming with kernel 2.6.10-SuSE, on a ATI laptop, and the drivers privided wouldn't compile (suspend & freinds). The SATA disks were only supported from 2.6.15 (which just came out), so I had to edit the "source code" of a closed source driver to make it all work well. If that's "easy" for you I doubt it is for 99.999% of earth's population. "World domination" is far away. Also, the 7 National Instruments cards I'm using for a deformable mirror in Adaptive Optics in an industrial PC are "certified" for SuSE 9.3 only. Which, this week, got discontinued. So what now ? > Most users should be using distribution kernels anyway, ???? should ???? who do you think "users" are ???? > not vanilla kernel.org kernels. Who said I was using vanilla kernels ? > > "development" branches. And it would certainly help > > vendors of closed-source drivers. > Their choice, their problem. no, it's MY problem. > I don't think you'll find very > many people on this list who gives a damn about the > troubles of closed source driver developers. and what about their users ? z -- ________________________ Zoltan ________________________ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/