Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:23:08 -0400
To: Zolt?n HUBERT <zoltan.hubert@zzaero.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Please release a stable kernel Linux 3.0
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On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 12:57:33AM +0200, Zolt?n HUBERT wrote:
> Well, I'm using SuSE Pro 9.3 (excellent choice by the way), 
> coming with kernel 2.6.10-SuSE, on a ATI laptop, and the 
> drivers privided wouldn't compile (suspend & freinds). The 
> SATA disks were only supported from 2.6.15 (which just came 
> out), so I had to edit the "source code" of a closed source 
> driver to make it all work well. If that's "easy" for you I 
> doubt it is for 99.999% of earth's population. "World 
> domination" is far away.

Have you ever tried installing windows xp from scratch on a new laptop?
Same (if not worse) problem.

> Also, the 7 National Instruments cards I'm using for a 
> deformable mirror in Adaptive Optics in an industrial PC 
> are "certified" for SuSE 9.3 only. Which, this week, got 
> discontinued. So what now ?

If you buy hardware that only works with one particular release of one
distribution, that is pretty much a way to ensure you will soon be
unable to use that hardware anymore.  Don't do that.

> ???? should ???? who do you think "users" are ????

People that install a distribution and use it.  Sometimes they upgrade
to the next release of the distribution.

> Who said I was using vanilla kernels ?

Well if you change the kernel on your distribution, then you aren't
running that distribution anymore.  You changed something.

> no, it's MY problem.

Well it is their problem to fix, and your problem that you bought their
stuff in the first place.

> and what about their users ?

The kernel developers can't fix the problems of the closed source code
anyhow, so it isn't the kernel developers problem.  It is a problem of
the closed source developer and their users (who chose that hardware
themselves.)  The kernel developers didn't recomend the hardware, and
didn't make the users buy that stuff.

--
Len Sorensen
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