Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753753AbXFUXiH (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:38:07 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751015AbXFUXh4 (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:37:56 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([66.187.233.31]:43655 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750936AbXFUXh4 (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:37:56 -0400 To: davids@webmaster.com Cc: "Linux-Kernel\@Vger. Kernel. Org" Subject: Re: how about mutual compatibility between Linux's GPLv2 and GPLv3? References: From: Alexandre Oliva Organization: Red Hat OS Tools Group Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:37:46 -0300 In-Reply-To: (David Schwartz's message of "Thu\, 21 Jun 2007 14\:13\:36 -0700") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.990 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2381 Lines: 55 On Jun 21, 2007, "David Schwartz" wrote: > Are you seriously suggesting that the Linux kernel source contain code with > various different licenses It already does. All the way from permissive Free Software licenses to GPLv2-incompatible non-Free Software licenses. > Over time, the code will get so combined and interwoven that the > intersection of all permitted licenses would soon apply to > effectively the entire kernel. If you don't keep things clearly separate, yes. I was honestly thinking more along the lines of ZFS as a separate driver than about your bringing GPLv3 code into the core of the kernel. But then, it would be your call either way. This option of mutual cooperation wouldn't work for either party if you're not willing to cooperate, and that's what I believe makes it fair. Now, if you guys can't recognize a goodwill gesture when you see one, and prefer to live in the paranoid beliefs that "those evil FSFers are trying to force me into a situation in which they'll then be able to steal my code", that's really up to you. Don't try to shift the blame of your decisions onto the FSF. One thing is missing the spirit of the GPL and using it to serve a different purpose, without realizing it doesn't provide you with exactly what you want (tivoization, for example); another completely different is to try to put it as FSF's fault that clarifications and amendments are desirable to ensure the ability for authors to enforce the intent of the GPL. > Unless, that is, GPLv3 makes itself compatible with GPlv2. Hey, but that was precisely what I was suggesting! Except that it wasn't with GPLv2 alone, because this doesn't work. Each copyleft license insists that it be *the* license. So, in order to be able to combine two copyleft licenses, you need mutual compatibility provisions in both. Which is what I was proposing. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ FSF Latin America Board Member http://www.fsfla.org/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/