Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754915AbXFUXtp (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:49:45 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751254AbXFUXtg (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:49:36 -0400 Received: from pentafluge.infradead.org ([213.146.154.40]:35837 "EHLO pentafluge.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751007AbXFUXtf (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:49:35 -0400 Subject: Re: Please release a stable kernel Linux 3.0 From: Arjan van de Ven To: Chuck Ebbert Cc: Lennart Sorensen , Jesper Juhl , Zolt?n HUBERT , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <467B04EB.2010105@redhat.com> References: <200706212349.54983.zoltan.hubert@zzaero.com> <9a8748490706211529yca0588dgd1f7e0b86f7e4a62@mail.gmail.com> <467AFCEC.2070203@redhat.com> <20070621230126.GF10008@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> <467B04EB.2010105@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Intel International BV Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:45:40 -0700 Message-Id: <1182469541.2704.13.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.2 (2.10.2-2.fc7) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by pentafluge.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1138 Lines: 27 On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 19:08 -0400, Chuck Ebbert wrote: > On 06/21/2007 07:01 PM, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 06:34:20PM -0400, Chuck Ebbert wrote: > >> Even the good ones that get lots of fixes aren't all that good. The > >> biggest problem ATM is that suspend is badly broken and keeps getting > >> worse... > > > > I wasn't under the impression suspend had really ever worked. Such a > > messy problem to solve. > > > > It never worked reliably for everyone, but with each new release it > seems to get worse. the thing is just fundamentally not designed right. Declaring it stable ain't gonna fix that. Having someone do a right design (which will obviously will go through some breakage period, even if it's an evolution of the current design) is a required step of getting s/r more reliable... but the current one doesn't get stable just by declaring it so. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/