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Date:   Mon, 26 Sep 2022 21:55:52 +0200
From:   Andreas Mohr <andi@lisas.de>
To:     K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] x86,acpi: Limit "Dummy wait" workaround to older AMD
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Hi,

Am Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 10:02:44PM +0530 schrieb K Prateek Nayak:
> Hello Peter,
> 
> On 9/26/2022 5:37 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > For how many of the above have you changed behaviour?
> 
> The proposed logic does alter the behavior for x86 chipsets that depend
> on acpi_idle driver and have IOPORT based C-state. Based on what
> Rafael and Dave suggested, I have marked all Intel processors to be
> affected by this bug. In light of Andreas' report, I've also marked
> all the pre-family 17h AMD processors to be affected by this bug to avoid
> causing any regression.
> 
> It is hard to tell if any other vendor had this bug in their chipsets.
> Dave's patch does not make this consideration either and limits the
> dummy operation to only Intel chipsets using acpi_idle driver.
> (https://lore.kernel.org/all/78d13a19-2806-c8af-573e-7f2625edfab8@intel.com/)
> If folks reported a regression, I would have been happy to fix it for
> them.

Despite certain, umm, controversies, the discussion/patch activities
appear to be heading into a good direction ;)


This text somehow prompted me to think of
whether STPCLK# [quirk] behaviour is
a property of the CPU family, or the chipset, or actually a combination of it.

Given that [from recollection] VIA 8233/8235 spec PDFs do mention STPCLK#,
possibly a chipset does have a say in it? (which
obviously would then mean that
the kernel's quirk state decision-making would have to be refined)

Minor reference (note 8237, not 8233):
http://www.chipset-ic.com/datasheet/VT8237.pdf
  "STPCLK# is asserted by the VT8237R to the CPU to throttle the processor."
  (and many other STPCLK# mentions there)

Greetings

Andreas Mohr