Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758647AbXFVOns (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:43:48 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756207AbXFVOnk (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:43:40 -0400 Received: from thunk.org ([69.25.196.29]:33080 "EHLO thunker.thunk.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756655AbXFVOnj (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:43:39 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:43:17 -0400 From: Theodore Tso To: Alexandre Oliva Cc: Al Viro , davids@webmaster.com, "Linux-Kernel@Vger. Kernel. Org" Subject: Re: how about mutual compatibility between Linux's GPLv2 and GPLv3? Message-ID: <20070622144317.GA15285@thunk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Theodore Tso , Alexandre Oliva , Al Viro , davids@webmaster.com, "Linux-Kernel@Vger. Kernel. Org" References: <20070622013417.GT21478@ftp.linux.org.uk> <20070622041949.GA15625@thunk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: tytso@thunk.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on thunker.thunk.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2023 Lines: 42 On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 03:00:30AM -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > I was here to dispell the lies that were being spread about GPLv3, the > spirit and the goals of the GPL, as far as I understood them. I knew > from the start that it was an uphill battle, and that I wouldn't be > able to convince those who distrusted the FSF so much that they would > listen to anything that resembled an FSF discourse with an extremely > high rejection level. This was all expected. News flash: almost no one except for you cares about the "spirit of the GPL", and it was not on that basis that people decided that the GPLv3 was an inferior license, FOR THE LINUX KERNEL. > That I was perceived as pushing it is not surprising at all. So the fact that you keep talk about the general case, when in fact the concern was about the specific case of the Linux kernel, certainly DID make it seem like that you were pushing it. THE GENERAL CASE IS OUT OF SCOPE FOR THIS MAILING LIST. And no, it's not a perception of "being forced", it's was a matter of consuming huge amounts of bandwidth on a topic which was out-of-scope for this mailing list. And the only topic which was in scope (whether or not GPLv3 was appropriat for the Linux kernel development community) was one where you would keep slidng away from. > I feel I have accomplished my goal: I've informed a lot of people > about the GPL, about GPLv3, about Free Software and even about the > FSFes. Whether they make a decision for GPLv3, GPLv2, or more liberal > Free Software licenses, is up to them. Now, people who'd only been > exposed to the prevailing views in this list can take something > different into account, and make more-informed decisions. Great. So can we please END this thread? Thank you. - Ted - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/