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From: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
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On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 10:14:23AM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> > Another law of negotiations --- don't goad people into hardening their
> > positions; it helps neither you nor your interests.
> 
> That always depends which side you really support, whether you want to
> force someone to wedge themselves in an undefendable corner and so on..

Well yes, I'm assuming that the goal is successfully concluded
negotiations.  If in fact the idea is to force people to wedge
themselves into an undefensible corner so that you can blame the
failed negotiations on *them*, when it was really *you* who had no
interest in reaching a mutually agreeable compromise, then of course
that could be a valid tactic.  That's a bit of an advanced technique,
though; and some might call it a tad slimeball thing to do.  Happens
all the time in political and labor discussions, though!

I hope that wasn't want Alexandre was trying to do, although at times
where one could wonder if he was really sent by Tivo to make sure the
kernel would stay GPLv2.  :-)

						- Ted
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