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Subject: Re: Planned changes for bugzilla.kernel.org to reduce the "Bugzilla
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From:   Slade Watkins <srw@sladewatkins.net>
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Date:   Thu, 29 Sep 2022 11:39:20 -0400
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To:     Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org>
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Hey there,

> On Sep 29, 2022, at 11:31 AM, Konstantin Ryabitsev =
<konstantin@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>=20
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 02:22:10PM +0000, Artem S. Tashkinov wrote:
>> * Delete all the components.
>> * Leave a catch-all one.
>> * Let bug reports rot because no one will ever see them. Almost just
>> like now. Don't remind me of mailing lists.
>=20
> This is my proposal, except also:
>=20
> 1. post all new bugs and comments to a public-inbox feed that people =
can query
>   via lore.kernel.org and tooling like lei.

Honestly, giving it a lot more thought, this is a brilliant idea.

>=20
>> Mailing lists will not work for such a huge project. Period. In the
>> early 90s they worked, but we are 25 years later with millions more
>> users. With a ton more of a ton more complicated hardware.
>=20
> We've recognized this a while ago, which is why our efforts have been =
targeted
> at query-based message feeds. Hence, tools like lore.kernel.org and =
lei. It's
> a work in progress, for sure, but it doesn't require any "everyone =
must switch
> workflows today" kind of coordination, and avoids introducing single =
points of
> failure by making it easy to replicate everything to mirrored systems.

My parents taught me growing up that you can only ever _improve_: you =
can never be perfect.=20

Needless to say, it=E2=80=99s worth a shot.


Best,

-srw