Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755523AbXFXSnX (ORCPT ); Sun, 24 Jun 2007 14:43:23 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751516AbXFXSnP (ORCPT ); Sun, 24 Jun 2007 14:43:15 -0400 Received: from fallback.us4.outblaze.com ([205.158.62.120]:54034 "EHLO fallback.us4.outblaze.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751505AbXFXSnO convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Sun, 24 Jun 2007 14:43:14 -0400 X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.62) by wfilter2.us4.outblaze.com; 24 Jun 2007 18:35:26 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Ash Willis" To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:35:26 -0500 Subject: Re: Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ? X-Originating-Ip: 212.139.44.104 X-Originating-Server: ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20070624183526.B1E7F1158CD@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1587 Lines: 36 kloczek, The fact that it is now open source does mean that it's a suitable replacement. If you actually want a productive discussion, you'd be better off making an attempt at describing exactly _why_ ALSA is 'crap' and how in your opinion OSS overcomes ALSA's shortfalls. IMHO, it would be far more realistic and managable to look at the OSS codebase and use it to make improvements to ALSA. I'm looking into one or two issues myself and I've mentioned looking at the OSS code for possible improvements on the alsa-devel list. I think it's generally agreed that OSS can't do much at all that ALSA doesn't already do. Sure, if you've been smoking crack, you might want to rip out ALSA and replace it with OSS to gain some minor functionality but you'd also lose functionality in the process. Unless you can describe how the actual architecture of ALSA is inferior and not just complain about some particular device not being fully supported, the best idea is clearly to port any lacking functionality from OSS -> ALSA. In the case that you can actually provide valid reasons for ALSA's inferiority, I shall respectfully eat my hat :) Either way, have bug reports been filed for areas of ALSA that you are unhappy with? Ash -- Get a Free E-mail Account at Mail.com! Choose From 100+ Personalized Domains Visit http://www.mail.com today - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/