Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754625AbXFXTZM (ORCPT ); Sun, 24 Jun 2007 15:25:12 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752797AbXFXTY6 (ORCPT ); Sun, 24 Jun 2007 15:24:58 -0400 Received: from rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl ([153.19.42.16]:22616 "EHLO rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752558AbXFXTY5 (ORCPT ); Sun, 24 Jun 2007 15:24:57 -0400 Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:24:54 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Tomasz_K=B3oczko?= To: Alan Cox cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ? In-Reply-To: <20070624200837.16e11305@the-village.bc.nu> Message-ID: References: <20070624200837.16e11305@the-village.bc.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-145854784-1182713094=:25800" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2090 Lines: 45 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-145854784-1182713094=:25800 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Sun, 24 Jun 2007, Alan Cox wrote: [..] > Years ago Linux dumped OSS for ALSA because ALSA offered far better > functionality and support. Why would we go back to the stone age ? > > Its something useful to various other platforms with basically no > hardware support but Linux has ALSA and very good hardware support and > ALSA even has emulation for back compatibility with old OSS apps. > > Ten years ago it would probably have made a difference, five maybe, today > its a release of historical code at best, and since they shipped binary > modules for Linux more like 'getting around to complying with the > licence' than anything else. Sory Alan but I don't want philosophical/historical discuss. Try to answer on question "ALSA or OSS ?" using *only* technical arguments. Maybe it is not clear for you but now way for introduce better OSS support for FOSS applications is completly oppened (there is no legal contrargumets fo not using OSS). There is no ALSA on non-Linux systems (and will not be) so all other OSes/Unices will have better sound support than Linux (better on technical level and also on support level because all this systems will use common OSS) .. and it is only matter of time (when/how fast ?). If you dont see this please stop .. kloczek -- ----------------------------------------------------------- *Ludzie nie maj? problem?w, tylko sobie sami je stwarzaj?* ----------------------------------------------------------- Tomasz K?oczko, sys adm @zie.pg.gda.pl|*e-mail: kloczek@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl* --0-145854784-1182713094=:25800-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/