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Date:   Fri, 30 Sep 2022 16:14:41 -0600
From:   Jack Rosenthal <jrosenth@chromium.org>
To:     Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v11] firmware: google: Implement cbmem in sysfs driver
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On 2022-09-30 at 08:32 +0200, Greg KH wrote:
> symlink?  Ick, no, do not do that at all please.
> 
> As these are device attributes, just stick with them.  Don't do a crazy
> symlink into a non-device-attribute portion of the sysfs tree, by doing
> that you break all userspace tools and stuff like libudev will never
> even see these attributes.

I guess I can fill in some info here about the use case needed:
userspace tools (in this case, a tool called "crossystem") needs to look
up a CBMEM entry by ID and read it.  So, being able to find a fixed path
like /sys/firmware/cbmem/<id>/mem is significantly easier than scanning
all /sys/bus/coreboot/devices/coreboot*/id to find the right device
first.

What exactly do we break here by adding symlinks?  udev won't look into
/sys/firmware, right?

Or, is there another good alternative that we could use to find a CBMEM
entry by its id without needing to scan thru all coreboot bus type
devices?  Setting the device name to something more predictable (e.g.,
"cbmem-<id>") would require the coreboot bus type to "look ahead" and
notice it's a CBMEM entry before registering the device, which wouldn't
exactly be all that clean.

> > +What:		/sys/firmware/cbmem/
> > +Date:		August 2022
> > +Contact:	Jack Rosenthal <jrosenth@chromium.org>
> > +Description:
> > +		Coreboot provides a variety of data structures in CBMEM.  This
> > +		directory contains each CBMEM entry, which can be found via
> > +		Coreboot tables.
> 
> What happened to the coreboot name?

I removed it as it seemed like from your last message you didn't want
it?

> Why cbmem?  What is CBMEM?

I can add this to the next patch once I get clarifications on the above.

> Also, I asked before, but some note about "exposing all of these bios
> values to userspace is not a security issue at all" would be nice, if
> only to point at in a few years and say "wow we were naive"...

Right, I'll add this too.

Thanks,

Jack