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Tashkinov" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.120.41.1.1) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - premium237.web-hosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - vger.kernel.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - sladewatkins.net X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: premium237.web-hosting.com: authenticated_id: srw@sladewatkins.net X-Authenticated-Sender: premium237.web-hosting.com: srw@sladewatkins.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-From-Rewrite: unmodified, already matched X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi, > On Oct 2, 2022, at 8:49 AM, Artem S. Tashkinov wrote: > As I've said many times already: bugzilla must be an opt-out, not = opt-in > experience/option. >=20 > Let's subscribe the past six months of developers using git commits = and > if someone doesn't like getting emails they go to the website and > unsubscribe _once_ which takes a minute. This is a non-issue I've no > clue why we're dwelling on it. I disagree with this in its *entirety* and I really don=E2=80=99t think = it has any chance of moving forward.=20 If this were to happen (and it won=E2=80=99t!) then developers will just = send the emails to spam or some other filter because they didn=E2=80=99t = _consent_ to being subscribed to it. And in my opinion, they=E2=80=99d = be justified in doing that. -srw