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From:   Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Date:   Sun, 2 Oct 2022 18:08:10 +0200
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdWLbS5jnOpdq0a6ie3eB5rmM6Rof3390t0u5FeO4Hmt5g@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Planned changes for bugzilla.kernel.org to reduce the "Bugzilla blues"
To:     "Artem S. Tashkinov" <aros@gmx.com>
Cc:     "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
        Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@leemhuis.info>,
        Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
        Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org>,
        workflows@vger.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
        "regressions@lists.linux.dev" <regressions@lists.linux.dev>,
        ksummit@lists.linux.dev,
        Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com>
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Hi Artem,

On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 2:49 PM Artem S. Tashkinov <aros@gmx.com> wrote:
> The current ill-maintained semi-functional bugzilla has proven to be a
> ton more useful than random mailing lists no sane person can keep track
> of. Bug "reports", i.e. random emails are neglected and forgotten. LKML
> is the worst of them probably.

Such a statement really needs to be backed by numbers...

> Let's operate with some examples:
>
> Bugzilla gets around two dozen bug reports weekly which encompass at
> most thirty emails, which equals to four emails daily on average.

This immediately debunks your statement above.

$ git log v5.19..linus/master | grep Fixes: | wc -l
2928

So that's 46 bugs fixed per _day_.  Most of them not reported
through bugzilla...

> LKML alone sees up to a hundred emails _daily_.
>
> Getting worked up about it? I'm dumbfounded to be honest.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds