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From:   Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
To:     Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
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On Sun, 2022-10-02 at 18:08 +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 2:49 PM Artem S. Tashkinov <aros@gmx.com> wrote:
> > The current ill-maintained semi-functional bugzilla has proven to be a
> > ton more useful than random mailing lists no sane person can keep track
> > of. Bug "reports", i.e. random emails are neglected and forgotten. LKML
> > is the worst of them probably.
> 
> Such a statement really needs to be backed by numbers...
> 
> > Let's operate with some examples:
> > 
> > Bugzilla gets around two dozen bug reports weekly which encompass at
> > most thirty emails, which equals to four emails daily on average.
> 
> This immediately debunks your statement above.

true.

> $ git log v5.19..linus/master | grep Fixes: | wc -l
> 2928
> 
> So that's 46 bugs fixed per _day_.

But not really.  Many, perhaps even most, of these "Fixes:" are for code
introduced in -rc releases and so are a typical part of a development
cycle and are not for fixes in nominally released/final versions.