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[209.85.219.174]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x188-20020a3795c5000000b006bad7a2964fsm8395655qkd.78.2022.10.02.09.11.03 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 02 Oct 2022 09:11:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yb1-f174.google.com with SMTP id j7so10590732ybb.8; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 09:11:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a05:6902:2c1:b0:6b2:8bb0:79a0 with SMTP id w1-20020a05690202c100b006b28bb079a0mr16557262ybh.202.1664727063295; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 09:11:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <05d149a0-e3de-8b09-ecc0-3ea73e080be3@leemhuis.info> <9a2fdff8-d0d3-ebba-d344-3c1016237fe5@gmx.com> <83f6dd2b-784a-e6d3-ebaf-6ad9cfe4eefe@gmx.com> <79bb605a-dab8-972d-aa4a-a5e5ee49387c@gmx.com> In-Reply-To: From: Geert Uytterhoeven Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 18:10:48 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Planned changes for bugzilla.kernel.org to reduce the "Bugzilla blues" To: "Artem S. Tashkinov" Cc: "Theodore Ts'o" , Thorsten Leemhuis , Greg KH , Konstantin Ryabitsev , workflows@vger.kernel.org, LKML , Linus Torvalds , "regressions@lists.linux.dev" , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, Mario Limonciello Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 6:08 PM Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 2:49 PM Artem S. Tashkinov wrote: > > The current ill-maintained semi-functional bugzilla has proven to be a > > ton more useful than random mailing lists no sane person can keep track > > of. Bug "reports", i.e. random emails are neglected and forgotten. LKML > > is the worst of them probably. > > Such a statement really needs to be backed by numbers... > > > Let's operate with some examples: > > > > Bugzilla gets around two dozen bug reports weekly which encompass at > > most thirty emails, which equals to four emails daily on average. > > This immediately debunks your statement above. > > $ git log v5.19..linus/master | grep Fixes: | wc -l > 2928 Sorry, this was using my grep = `grep --color=tty -i' alias. But that caused less than 100 false-positives, thus has no impact on the point I'm trying to make. Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds