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[209.85.219.174]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id cq15-20020a05622a424f00b0035cdd7a42d0sm7387560qtb.22.2022.10.02.11.17.53 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 02 Oct 2022 11:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yb1-f174.google.com with SMTP id o123so10829849yba.0; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 11:17:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a25:8e84:0:b0:696:466c:baa with SMTP id q4-20020a258e84000000b00696466c0baamr15975184ybl.604.1664734672797; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 11:17:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <05d149a0-e3de-8b09-ecc0-3ea73e080be3@leemhuis.info> <9a2fdff8-d0d3-ebba-d344-3c1016237fe5@gmx.com> <83f6dd2b-784a-e6d3-ebaf-6ad9cfe4eefe@gmx.com> <79bb605a-dab8-972d-aa4a-a5e5ee49387c@gmx.com> In-Reply-To: <79bb605a-dab8-972d-aa4a-a5e5ee49387c@gmx.com> From: Geert Uytterhoeven Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 20:17:37 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Planned changes for bugzilla.kernel.org to reduce the "Bugzilla blues" To: "Artem S. Tashkinov" Cc: "Theodore Ts'o" , Thorsten Leemhuis , Greg KH , Konstantin Ryabitsev , workflows@vger.kernel.org, LKML , Linus Torvalds , "regressions@lists.linux.dev" , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, Mario Limonciello Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi Artem, On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 2:49 PM Artem S. Tashkinov wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 01, 2022 at 02:58:04PM +0000, Artem S. Tashkinov wrote: > Bugzilla gets around two dozen bug reports weekly which encompass at > most thirty emails, which equals to four emails daily on average. So we're discussing about the fate of a tool through which on average four bugs per day are submitted (some of which are not very useful due to lack of information)? A tool which is not maintained upstream? Perhaps that's enough reason to just kill the tool, so no one has to worry about it, or maintain it? However, at four emails per day, you might as well just subscribe the subsystem mailing lists (each of which would receive only a fraction of that, right?). Maintainers and several developers won't even notice that minor increase in the number of daily emails received, although they might still complain about the contents ;-) And that still needs someone to keep the tool working... Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds