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On 10/2/22 20:46, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 12:27 PM Artem S. Tashkinov <aros@gmx.com> wrote:
>>
>> It's so weird to read this I'm just dumbfounded.
>
> The *real* dumbfoundedness here is how you seem to think you have the
> right to tell people how to work, when you've been told over and over
> how bugzilla doesn't fit in the workflow, and isn't worth the effort
> and time.
>
> And when people tell you that if you care about bugzilla, then it is
> *you* who should spend the time there, you say that you are
> dumbfounded. Because only you can tell people how they should work,
> right?
>
> Please go away, and look in the mirror a bit.

Linus, I've _not_ told anyone how to work and what to do. Not in a
single email message so far.

I just want a bugzilla where I can CC _any_ developer _if_ and _only if_
they are willing to work within its confounds. That's it.


There have been no other proposals from me other than killing the entire
thing as many here have blown out of proportions the amount of emails it
generates or the amount of attention it requires.

If you want me to go away though you've actually helped _me_ solve quite
serious bugs _using_ bugzilla (which I bet would be quite difficult to
approach using emails), so be it.

Regards,
Artem