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Tashkinov" , Theodore Ts'o , Thorsten Leemhuis , Greg KH , Konstantin Ryabitsev , workflows@vger.kernel.org, LKML , Linus Torvalds , "regressions@lists.linux.dev" , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, Mario Limonciello Subject: Re: Planned changes for bugzilla.kernel.org to reduce the "Bugzilla blues" Message-ID: <20221002192146.03993bb2@yoga.local.home> In-Reply-To: References: <83f6dd2b-784a-e6d3-ebaf-6ad9cfe4eefe@gmx.com> <79bb605a-dab8-972d-aa4a-a5e5ee49387c@gmx.com> <20221002141321.394de676@rorschach.local.home> <6de0925c-a98a-219e-eed2-ba898ef974f8@gmx.com> <20221002180844.2e91b1f1@rorschach.local.home> <3a3b9346-e243-e178-f8dd-f8e1eacdc6ae@gmx.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 4.1.0 (GTK 3.24.34; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 00:04:25 +0100 Al Viro wrote: > And you keep moving along the same track - the usual reaction of some > company after having pulled back a bloody stump and enjoyed the pile of > explanations of the reasons why opt-out is *NOT* *ACCEPTABLE*, *EVER* > is along the lines of "OK, we'll just spam everyone in our database once > and ask them to opt-in - that must be OK, right?" But a single spam that can be ignored is so much better than being automatically added to something that you have to do work to get out of. We get spammed a lot to participate in surveys and such. But for those one time emails, they never bothered me. Sometimes, I actually do participate. -- Steve