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Shutemov" , joao.moreira@intel.com, John Allen , kcc@google.com, eranian@google.com, rppt@kernel.org, jamorris@linux.microsoft.com, dethoma@microsoft.com Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 29/39] x86/cet/shstk: Support wrss for userspace Message-ID: <202210031525.78F3FA8@keescook> References: <20220929222936.14584-1-rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com> <20220929222936.14584-30-rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20220929222936.14584-30-rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 03:29:26PM -0700, Rick Edgecombe wrote: > For the current shadow stack implementation, shadow stacks contents easily > be arbitrarily provisioned with data. I can't parse this sentence. > This property helps apps protect > themselves better, but also restricts any potential apps that may want to > do exotic things at the expense of a little security. Is anything using this right now? Wouldn't thing be safer without WRSS? (Why can't we skip this patch?) -- Kees Cook