Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754864AbXFYNUz (ORCPT ); Mon, 25 Jun 2007 09:20:55 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752615AbXFYNUq (ORCPT ); Mon, 25 Jun 2007 09:20:46 -0400 Received: from emailhub.stusta.mhn.de ([141.84.69.5]:39377 "EHLO mailhub.stusta.mhn.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752229AbXFYNUq (ORCPT ); Mon, 25 Jun 2007 09:20:46 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 15:21:07 +0200 From: Adrian Bunk To: Olivier Galibert , Takashi Iwai , Tomasz K?oczko , Alan Cox , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ? Message-ID: <20070625132107.GD1094@stusta.de> References: <20070624200837.16e11305@the-village.bc.nu> <20070624215724.025a5de5@the-village.bc.nu> <20070625124442.GA44019@dspnet.fr.eu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070625124442.GA44019@dspnet.fr.eu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15+20070412 (2007-04-11) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1625 Lines: 46 On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 02:44:42PM +0200, Olivier Galibert wrote: > On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 02:31:08PM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote: > > So, do you mean the soft-mixing is the biggest issue? That's just a > > part of a design issue, and if we want to go to that way, the > > impelemtation would be trivial, regardless on ALSA or not. Totally > > irrelevant argument regarding "remove ALSA". > > Soft mixing is actually the biggest issue because if you had > generalized soft-mixing in the kernel-visible audio ports[1] you would > win two things: > > - programs could use the OSS API without interfering with the ALSA one > or which each other This works with aoss. If people often run into this problem it might make sense to deprecate the in-kernel OSS emulation and point people to the userspace emulation instead? > - programs coult use the ALSA kernel API directly without interfering > either, which would allow alternative libalsa implementations for > those who hate the current one >... Allowing for some hypothetical implementation noone might ever write is not sucha strong point... > OG. >... cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/