Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754087AbXFYRNg (ORCPT ); Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:13:36 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750718AbXFYRN1 (ORCPT ); Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:13:27 -0400 Received: from caffeine.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.134.17]:33478 "EHLO caffeine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751027AbXFYRN0 (ORCPT ); Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:13:26 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:13:25 -0400 To: Tomasz K?oczko Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ? Message-ID: <20070625171325.GA31195@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> References: <20070625144439.GI10008@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) From: lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Lennart Sorensen) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1426 Lines: 31 On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 05:48:21PM +0200, Tomasz K?oczko wrote: > On Mon, 25 Jun 2007, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > [..] > >In my experience OSS is a pile of crap compared to ALSA. > > Could you say something more detailed about this compare ? Well the last time I bothered to look at OSS, it was still stuck at supproting stereo only. It believed that if a card supported SB emulation, then adding support for that was good enough. it also thought supporting the GUS PnP through emulation of the original GUS counted as support. Essentially it was all about having a long list of supported chips, where support simply meant it could make some sounds, and if you were lucky it might even do stereo. At the time ALSA was already far beyond that in supporting all the inputs and outputs of many cards, supporting their true native capabilities, rather than some mediocre emulation mode. The fact ALSA was open source sure didn't hurt either. OSS being willing to sign NDAs also didn't help the rest of the linux community in any way when it came to trying to get hardware makers to release specs so drivers could actually be written for inclusion in the kernel. -- Len Sorensen - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/