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[2620:137:e000::1:20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id v13-20020a056402174d00b00458dc6e07f5si9783363edx.106.2022.10.05.14.15.03; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 14:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::1:20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=Mf5nuCyl; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229797AbiJEU40 (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 5 Oct 2022 16:56:26 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:46242 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229644AbiJEU4X (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Oct 2022 16:56:23 -0400 Received: from mail-ej1-x62e.google.com (mail-ej1-x62e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::62e]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9298A7757D for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2022 13:56:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ej1-x62e.google.com with SMTP id a26so350564ejc.4 for ; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 13:56:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=zfpsNBbNVPzFpz+lF6+ppNQCYSIyAPrPwcUGS4C/qTM=; b=Mf5nuCylf6oEdgUt9A74oPuzITr0D9YIrAijaWEUBhdHOQdttCTl3kdPf9/gN34UMB f4Jw9sNgDqmkiYuAhKBRAUfRw7ovit1aoS6tSbYi/u3KEansVUfvs4aXg9XfyDiDciY+ CcUFjq2W3UizHMc58TANb7W4Q0Wb/p7HErqSAACaWlBUQ323wnoYvOybrWNFnYc3CfsR SKoIwLYQpn7qVcryF0xDwkM8AEop/LvohQRx3Du26pCKcUWLzjG4dvwxqBOuctYVUKVP KdzkDEsE8vBW5zwYaMkxXYlgQ0PPW03+8qad68O2P6wl9o0H6C3Xr/+w834WkeITicHM KxUw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=zfpsNBbNVPzFpz+lF6+ppNQCYSIyAPrPwcUGS4C/qTM=; b=J4NSZAEy+fFHGWFtWIiY3hZF9CsU/pZChaMm0GP4uhCU+9UZmjca8AsS9EZrcAd3g/ nD1YOYYE0h+y1ZtV7MvS0lvOPqt38GvbdBPlk75WP6qGV3J9gL2GzyqgGzlBDR5l8Wgj xdZa+SDJleamZNwGKDEIMP4uoc4kmBmkggTSfXooWJziwrrn3TR2V2anInlHSqop2J0q AC+G07ER64pPGTPmGGl4mNkMQC9sV/LvCokb7LwVGx9sa0duxKOWBDW8YeN7LWYPu/7z SRDgCQDUwSvHO+dEryiradiJ/4/slQT18p4MWxOwdxwl5UKey7Wb3SuCbWQ+g9ppxO98 QPSw== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf0VfugNte0+fjgUIsyqbz3hZtm+A/oMPzOgQ07bopOb00yDXZSY QASt/5h84oQDpaC21A/fk8Z1cl61I2V6Wtktx2noYZYs X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:9756:b0:78b:8c9b:3b1d with SMTP id o22-20020a170906975600b0078b8c9b3b1dmr1181520ejy.256.1665003380999; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 13:56:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Dave Airlie Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 06:56:08 +1000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [git pull] drm for 6.1-rc1 To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Daniel Vetter , dri-devel , LKML Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 6 Oct 2022 at 04:38, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 8:42 PM Dave Airlie wrote: > > > > This is very conflict heavy, mostly the correct answer is picking > > the version from drm-next. > > Ugh, yes, that was a bit annoying. > > I get the same end result as you did, but I do wonder if the drm > people should try to keep some kind of separate "fixes" branches for > things that go both into the development tree and then get sent to me > for fixes pulls? > > Hopefully this "lots of pointless noise" was a one-off, but it might > be due to how you guys work.. In this case I think it was a late set of fixes backported for new AMD hardware, that had to be redone to fit into the current kernel that caused most of it. I haven't seen it this bad in a long while. We also maintain a rerere tree ourselves to avoid continuously seeing it. The problem is a lot of developers don't have the insight that the maintainers do into the current state of the tree/pipeline. Stuff goes into next because that is where the patch it fixes originally went, and it goes through CI there. Then at some point someone else realises the change needs to be in fixes and it gets backported. The volume of patches and company signoff processes doesn't make it trivial to upfront decide what needs to go in -next or -fixes unfortunately. Dave.