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Limonciello, >>> Mario >>> Cc: Mathias Nyman ; Mehta, Sanju >>> ; Greg Kroah-Hartman >>> ; linux-usb@vger.kernel.org; linux- >>> kernel@vger.kernel.org >>> Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] xhci-pci: Set runtime PM as default policy on >>> all xHC >>> 1.2 or later devices >>> >>> On 11.10.2022 8.11, Mika Westerberg wrote: >>>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 11:00:21AM -0500, Mario Limonciello wrote: >>>>> For optimal power consumption of USB4 routers the XHCI PCIe endpoint >>>>> used for tunneling must be in D3.  Historically this is accomplished >>>>> by a long list of PCIe IDs that correspond to these endpoints because >>>>> the xhci_hcd driver will not default to allowing runtime PM for all >>>>> devices. >>>>> >>>>> As both AMD and Intel have released new products with new XHCI >>> controllers >>>>> this list continues to grow. In reviewing the XHCI specification >>>>> v1.2 on >>>>> page 607 there is already a requirement that the PCI power management >>>>> states D3hot and D3cold must be supported. >>>>> >>>>> In the quirk list, use this to indicate that runtime PM should be >>>>> allowed >>>>> on XHCI controllers. The following controllers are known to be xHC >>>>> 1.2 and >>>>> dropped explicitly: >>>>> * AMD Yellow Carp >>>>> * Intel Alder Lake >>>>> * Intel Meteor Lake >>>>> * Intel Raptor Lake >>>>> >>>>> Suggested-by: Mathias Nyman >>>>> Link: >>> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww >>> w.intel.com%2Fcontent%2Fdam%2Fwww%2Fpublic%2Fus%2Fen%2Fdocum >>> ents%2Ftechnical-specifications%2Fextensible-host-controler-interface-usb- >>> xhci.pdf&data=05%7C01%7Cmario.limonciello%40amd.com%7Cb286e9c >>> 63e9e4c3a1a3708daab8a9b23%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0 >>> %7C0%7C638010909687542135%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC >>> 4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000% >>> 7C%7C%7C&sdata=CetIs1VuAqj8nNBoLnXaGncw6Sl4JcImYY67JpVxyjg% >>> 3D&reserved=0 >>>>> Signed-off-by: Mario Limonciello >>>> >>>> Reviewed-by: Mika Westerberg >>> >>> Thanks, added to queue >> >> Thanks! >> For my own clarity - is this something you'll still take to 6.1, or >> are you meaning >> 6.2 queue at this point? > > Was planning on sending it to usb-next after 6.1-rc1 is out, so ending > up in 6.2 > But if there's some benefit in having this already in 6.1 then I don't > object that either. > It's a blocker causing higher power consumption on some of the affected platforms. So if you're amenable, I would like to see it for 6.1 so these things have a better chance at passing energy certifications. >> >> This thread originated from enabling Pink Sardine.  Wherever it lands >> after it's >> baked for $long_enough I would like to bring it back to stable >> eventually too. >> If you think it's too risky for stable later on, can we do separate >> set of commits >> that adds and then removes the IDs for pink sardine that can go to >> stable?  This >> would at least mirror more closely what has been done historically for >> the other >> USB4 products. > > I think we can add this to stable. It's fine for Intel xHCI 1.2 hosts. > OK thanks.