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Date:   Thu, 13 Oct 2022 21:23:58 +0100
From:   Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
To:     Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: gcc 5 & 6 & others already out of date?
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On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 08:38:02PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Mark Brown:
> > On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 10:37:21AM -0600, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:

> > I was looking at your suggestion there - as a Debian user that feels a
> > touch enthusiastic (though practically probably not actually a problem)
> > since it's not too far off the release cadence, current Debian is at GCC
> > 10 and we're not due for another release till sometime next year which
> > will be right on the three years.

> Debian also has Clang 13, presumably for building Rust and Firefox.

Ah, so it does - nice!

> > There does also seem to be a contingent of people running enterprise
> > distros managed by an IT department or whatever who may take a while
> > to get round to pushing out new versions so for example might still
> > for example be running Ubuntu 20.04 rather than 22.04 (never mind the
> > people I know are sitting on 18.04 but that's another thing).

> The enterprise distributions have toolchain modules or toolsets that you
> can install, all nicely integrated.  You'd probably consider those
> versions too new. 8-/   I expect it's mostly an education issue, raising
> awareness of what's available from vendors.   (glibc versions are a
> different matter, but I don't think dropping support for historic
> versions on build hosts is on the table, so that should be relevant.)

Yeah, I found the ones for SLES easily enough but not the ones for RHEL
or Ubuntu.  Perfectly prepared to believe they're there though, it does
seem like sometihng users might want.

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