Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 16:07:18 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 16:06:22 -0500 Received: from bitmover.com ([192.132.92.2]:31874 "EHLO bitmover.bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 16:05:49 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 13:05:47 -0800 From: Larry McVoy To: "Martin J. Bligh" Cc: Larry McVoy , Rik van Riel , Lars Brinkhoff , Alan Cox , hps@intermeta.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: SMP/cc Cluster description [was Linux/Pro] Message-ID: <20011205130547.X11801@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: "Martin J. Bligh" , Larry McVoy , Rik van Riel , Lars Brinkhoff , Alan Cox , hps@intermeta.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20011205111115.T11801@work.bitmover.com> <2534997012.1007557344@mbligh.des.sequent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <2534997012.1007557344@mbligh.des.sequent.com>; from Martin.Bligh@us.ibm.com on Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 01:02:24PM -0800 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > > What I am proposing is to cluster *OS* images on a *single* SMP as a way of > > avoiding most of the locks necessary to scale up a single OS image on the > > same number of CPUs. > > Which, to me, makes the whole thing much less interesting, since there aren't > SMP systems about that are really large that I know of anyway. Scaling to > the size of current SMP systems is a much less difficult problem than scaling > to the size of NUMA systems. We don't agree on any of these points. Scaling to a 16 way SMP pretty much ruins the source base, even when it is done by very careful people. > The main advantage of starting with a single OS image, as I see it, is > that you have a system that works fine, but performs badly, from the > outset. Hey, I can make one of those :-) Seriously, I went through this at SGI, that's exactly what they did, and it was a huge mistake and it never worked. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/