Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1762973AbXF0V34 (ORCPT ); Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:29:56 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754309AbXF0V3r (ORCPT ); Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:29:47 -0400 Received: from bay0-omc2-s3.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.139]:54056 "EHLO bay0-omc2-s3.bay0.hotmail.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753806AbXF0V3q (ORCPT ); Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:29:46 -0400 X-Originating-IP: [65.93.40.159] X-Originating-Email: [seanlkml@sympatico.ca] Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:29:40 -0400 From: Sean To: Crispin Cowan Cc: Adrian Bunk , Andrew Morton , John Johansen , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [AppArmor 00/44] AppArmor security module overview Message-Id: <20070627172940.1cabd5c4.seanlkml@sympatico.ca> In-Reply-To: <4682D13C.6060107@novell.com> References: <20070626230756.519733902@suse.de> <20070626165202.bfe8e6df.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20070627022403.GB14656@suse.de> <20070626194700.5b0ff477.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20070627151114.GM1094@stusta.de> <4682D13C.6060107@novell.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.1 (GTK+ 2.10.11; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jun 2007 21:30:08.0406 (UTC) FILETIME=[55CF2360:01C7B902] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 998 Lines: 22 On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:06:04 -0700 Crispin Cowan wrote: > I am hoping for a reconciliation where the people who don't like > AppArmor live with it by not using it. AppArmor is not intended to > replace SELinux, it is intended to address a different set of goals. You keep saying that. But for that to be true you'd have to believe _everyone_ using Novell distributions has needs that align exactly with AppArmor. Otherwise, how to explain that you don't offer and support both SELinux and AppArmor to your users? It seems as far as Novell is concerned, AppArmor _is_ meant to replace SELinux. Not that there is really anything wrong with that, but it's a little disingenuous to then argue that they're meant to coexist. Sean - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/