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[209.85.219.179]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d25-20020a05620a159900b006ee7e223bb8sm2934445qkk.39.2022.10.14.12.09.02 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 14 Oct 2022 12:09:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yb1-f179.google.com with SMTP id 203so6671267ybc.10 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2022 12:09:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a05:6902:124f:b0:66e:e3da:487e with SMTP id t15-20020a056902124f00b0066ee3da487emr6177123ybu.310.1665774542040; Fri, 14 Oct 2022 12:09:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Linus Torvalds Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 12:08:44 -0700 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [BUG?] X86 arch_tlbbatch_flush() seems to be lacking mm_tlb_flush_nested() integration To: Jann Horn Cc: Andy Lutomirski , Linux-MM , Mel Gorman , Rik van Riel , kernel list , Kees Cook , Ingo Molnar , Sasha Levin , Andrew Morton , Will Deacon , Peter Zijlstra Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 11:20 AM Jann Horn wrote:\ > > The effect would be that after process B removes a mapping with > munmap() and creates a new mapping in its place, it would still see > data from the old mapping when trying to access the new mapping. > > Am I missing something that protects against this scenario? While I don't think that scenario is something you can trigger in practice without enormously bad luck, I don't see anything that would protect against it. Afaik, the whole vmscan thing never takes the vm lock, only the file lock (to protect mapping->i_map) or the anonvma lock (to protect anon_vma->rb_root). And none of that ends up serializing with a new mmap() that doesn't even install a new page in the page tables (and just gets an old TLB entry). There are zero shared data structures outside of the mm itself. Now, munmap() *could* serialize with it, because at least munmap has access to the data structures and their locks. But it doesn't do any deferred flushes that I can see, so while it's serialized, it doesn't help. And it wouldn't help to do try_to_unmap_flush() from munmap either, since the deferred flushing is per-thread, and the munmap is done from a different thread. So if you're missing something, then I am too. All this flushing is very careful to flush before actually releasing the page, which is our really traditional TLB flush bug. But yeah, that's not the only race - we should flush before replacing the mapping too. Mel? I think the batched flushing goes back to you many many years ago. I hope Jann and me are just being stupid and missing something obvious. Linus