Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932100AbXF1Vlr (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:41:47 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1763655AbXF1Vlk (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:41:40 -0400 Received: from smtpq2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl ([213.51.146.201]:54416 "EHLO smtpq2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1763574AbXF1Vlj (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:41:39 -0400 Message-ID: <46842A2D.4060201@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 23:37:49 +0200 From: Rene Herman User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (X11/20070509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adrian Bunk CC: Nix , Olivier Galibert , Takashi Iwai , Tomasz K?oczko , Alan Cox , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ? References: <20070624200837.16e11305@the-village.bc.nu> <20070624215724.025a5de5@the-village.bc.nu> <20070625124442.GA44019@dspnet.fr.eu.org> <20070625132107.GD1094@stusta.de> <87tzssextf.fsf@hades.wkstn.nix> <20070628210614.GC6087@stusta.de> In-Reply-To: <20070628210614.GC6087@stusta.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1220 Lines: 33 On 06/28/2007 11:06 PM, Adrian Bunk wrote: > The interesting point is that what you call "internal implementation > details" is much _more_ exposed with the OSS emulation in the kernel > _enabled_. > > Why? > > Linux software not supporting ALSA has becoming quite esoteric. > > But software like mplayer supporting both and trying OSS first and > software supporting both and letting the user choose is today much more > common. And that's exactly the case where users run into the results of > the "internal implementation detail" that their application used the > in-kernel OSS emulation instead of ALSA resulting in exactly these > problems. > > There is also a userspace OSS emulation for ALSA not suffering from these > problems. > > It's not my decision whether or not to remove the in-kernel OSS > emulation, all I'm saying is that removing it might actually result in > less users having problems. For what it's worth -- I do agree with this... Rene. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/