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From:   Maxime Ripard <maxime@cerno.tech>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 20/22] drm/vc4: vec: Convert to the new TV mode
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On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:31:31PM +0200, Noralf Tr=F8nnes wrote:
> Den 16.10.2022 20.52, skrev Mateusz Kwiatkowski:
> >>  static int vc4_vec_connector_get_modes(struct drm_connector *connecto=
r)
> >>  {
> >> -	struct drm_connector_state *state =3D connector->state;
> >>  	struct drm_display_mode *mode;
> >> =20
> >> -	mode =3D drm_mode_duplicate(connector->dev,
> >> -				  vc4_vec_tv_modes[state->tv.legacy_mode].mode);
> >> +	mode =3D drm_mode_analog_ntsc_480i(connector->dev);
> >>  	if (!mode) {
> >>  		DRM_ERROR("Failed to create a new display mode\n");
> >>  		return -ENOMEM;
> >>  	}
> >> =20
> >> +	mode->type |=3D DRM_MODE_TYPE_PREFERRED;
> >>  	drm_mode_probed_add(connector, mode);
> >> =20
> >> -	return 1;
> >> +	mode =3D drm_mode_analog_pal_576i(connector->dev);
> >> +	if (!mode) {
> >> +		DRM_ERROR("Failed to create a new display mode\n");
> >> +		return -ENOMEM;
> >> +	}
> >> +
> >> +	drm_mode_probed_add(connector, mode);
> >> +
> >> +	return 2;
> >> +}
> >=20
> > Referencing those previous discussions:
> > - https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/0255f7c6-0484-6456-350d-cf24f3fee5d=
6@tronnes.org/
> > - https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/c8f8015a-75da-afa8-ca7f-b2b134cacd1=
6@gmail.com/
> >=20
> > Unconditionally setting the 480i mode as DRM_MODE_TYPE_PREFERRED causes=
 Xorg
> > (at least on current Raspberry Pi OS) to display garbage when
> > video=3DComposite1:PAL is specified on the command line, so I'm afraid =
this won't
> > do.
> >=20
> > As I see it, there are three viable solutions for this issue:
> >=20
> > a) Somehow query the video=3D command line option from this function, a=
nd set
> >    DRM_MODE_TYPE_PREFERRED appropriately. This would break the abstract=
ion
> >    provided by global DRM code, but should work fine.
> >=20
> > b) Modify drm_helper_probe_add_cmdline_mode() so that it sets
> >    DRM_MODE_TYPE_PREFERRED in addition to DRM_MODE_TYPE_USERDEF. This s=
eems
> >    pretty robust, but affects the entire DRM subsystem, which may break
> >    userspace in different ways.
> >=20
> >    - Maybe this could be mitigated by adding some additional conditions=
, e.g.
> >      setting the PREFERRED flag only if no modes are already flagged as=
 such
> >      and/or only if the cmdline mode is a named one (~=3D analog TV mod=
e)
> >=20
> > c) Forcing userspace (Xorg / Raspberry Pi OS) to get fixed and honor th=
e USERDEF
> >    flag.
> >=20
> > Either way, hardcoding 480i as PREFERRED does not seem right.
> >=20
>=20
> My solution for this is to look at tv.mode to know which mode to mark as
> preferred. Maxime didn't like this since it changes things behind
> userspace's back. I don't see how that can cause any problems for userspa=
ce.
>=20
> If userspace uses atomic and sets tv_mode, it has to know which mode to
> use before hand, so it doesn't look at the preferreded flag.
>=20
> If it uses legacy and sets tv_mode, it can end up with a stale preferred
> flag, but no worse than not having the flag or that ntsc is always
> preferred.
>=20
> If it doesn't change tv_mode, there's no problem, the preferred flag
> doesn't change.

I don't like it because I just see no way to make this reliable. When we
set tv_mode, we're not only going to change the preferred flag, but also
the order of the modes to make the preferred mode first.

Since we just changed the mode lists, we also want to send a hotplug
event to userspace so that it gets notified of it. It will pick up the
new preferred mode, great.

But what if it doesn't? There's no requirement for userspace to handle
hotplug events, and Kodi won't for example. So we just changed the TV
mode but not the actual mode, and that's it. It's just as broken for
Kodi as it is for X11 right now.

If we can't get a bullet-proof solution, then I'm not convinced it's
worth addressing. Especially since it's already the current state, and
it doesn't seem to bother a lot of people.

Maxime

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