Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933802AbXF2Qh6 (ORCPT ); Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:37:58 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932078AbXF2Qhu (ORCPT ); Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:37:50 -0400 Received: from mtl.rackplans.net ([69.90.0.18]:34985 "EHLO mtl.rackplans.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1760139AbXF2Qht (ORCPT ); Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:37:49 -0400 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:37:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Gerhard Mack X-X-Sender: gmack@mtl.rackplans.net To: =?iso-8859-15?q?Zolt=E1n_HUBERT?= cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Please release a stable kernel Linux 3.0 In-Reply-To: <200706271118.36985.zoltan.hubert@zzaero.com> Message-ID: References: <200706212349.54983.zoltan.hubert@zzaero.com> <200706261637.22820.zoltan.hubert@zzaero.com> <6FD45914-1793-45D5-B0A1-F5D32ED38017@e18.physik.tu-muenchen.de> <200706271118.36985.zoltan.hubert@zzaero.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="658624935-1208726249-1183135067=:1395" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2552 Lines: 66 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --658624935-1208726249-1183135067=:1395 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Wed, 27 Jun 2007, Zolt=E1n HUBERT wrote: > I don't remember how it was during 2.4 and before, but I=20 > find it very suspicious that SuSE and RedHat only provide=20 > 2.6.10 and 2.6.9 for their OS. It looks as if THEY didn't=20 > trust 2.6.x to be a replacement to 2.6.y >=20 > And as I understand it, this is (was ?) the whole point of=20 > stable/development kernels. "We" can trust a newer stable=20 > kernel to be a drop-in replacement for an older stable=20 > kernel (from the same series), while development kernels=20 > need time to stabilize with the new whizz-bang-pfouit stuff=20 > that you all so nicely add.=20 >=20 > Are the good ol' days lost in nostalgia ? Lost? maybe. Improved on, defiantly so it's loss isn't a bad thing. The 2.4/2.5 split was, as far as I recall, a mess. 2.5 had too many=20 changes to stabilize in any reasonable amount of time and 2.4 then needed= =20 new drivers and features to keep it from becoming obsolete. Back porting= =20 drivers without the needed infrastructure resulted in instabilities in=20 the 2.4 branch. I recall one time where I needed a certain raid device working and not a=20 single kernel had that driver working properly. 2.4.x oopsed in the=20 driver after random intervals and the 2.5 kernel crashed in other places. Now development is broken into smaller stages that are easier to debug and= =20 made stable in shorter time. If I just need to update a kernel and don't= =20 need any new features and drivers I can just update to the next point=20 release and I know it won't break anything. If I want new features I can= =20 update to the latest stable branch or the latest pre release but either=20 way my stuff is more likely to work than I did back in the 2.5 days. I think people who keep demanding a return to the old development system=20 forget how badly it sucked in the first place. =09Gerhard -- Gerhard Mack gmack@innerfire.net <>< As a computer I find your faith in technology amusing. --658624935-1208726249-1183135067=:1395-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/