Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755310AbXHAWFZ (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Aug 2007 18:05:25 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752971AbXHAWFP (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Aug 2007 18:05:15 -0400 Received: from pentafluge.infradead.org ([213.146.154.40]:38101 "EHLO pentafluge.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752677AbXHAWFM (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Aug 2007 18:05:12 -0400 Subject: RE: [ck] Re: Linus 2.6.23-rc1 -- It does not matter who's code gets merged! From: Arjan van de Ven To: Hua Zhong Cc: jos@mijnkamer.nl, "'Carlo Florendo'" , "'Roman Zippel'" , "'Linus Torvalds'" , "'Michael Chang'" , "'Kasper Sandberg'" , "'Linux Kernel Mailing List'" In-Reply-To: <006b01c7d46b$6e356250$4aa026f0$@com> References: <200707282003.45142.jos@mijnkamer.nl> <200707282128.39906.jos@mijnkamer.nl> <46B01E3F.6050401@gmail.com> <005001c7d403$8d7601a0$a86204e0$@com> <1185951901.2754.12.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <5c77e14b0708010114x49e5c468gd71a77f2aa8cb48f@mail.gmail.com> <1185976972.2754.21.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <006b01c7d46b$6e356250$4aa026f0$@com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Intel International BV Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 15:04:28 -0700 Message-Id: <1186005868.2705.3.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.3 (2.10.3-2.fc7) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by pentafluge.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1724 Lines: 39 On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 11:40 -0700, Hua Zhong wrote: > > > And, from a standpoint of ONGOING, long-term innovation: what matters > > > is that brilliant, new ideas get rewarded one way or another. > > > > and in this case, the reward is that the idea got used and credit was > > given.... > > You mean, when Ingo announced CFS he mentioned Con's name? and put his name in the code too > When you said "it does not matter whose code got merged", I have to > disagree. Sure, for the Linux community as a whole, for Linux itself, > it may not matter, but for the individuals involved, it does. And I > think benefits of individuals are as important as benefits of the > community (or the nation). I agree it's a nice ego boost to see your code merged. But... do you care more about your ego boost or about your problem getting solved? I really want to change this if you say "ego for code merging"... "ego boost for getting linux improved and being involved in solving an important problem" is a lot better type of ego boost.. No developer can or should expect that most, or even half of his code to be merged. Even Linus doesn't get half the code he writes into linux :) Con did get a whole bunch of stuff merged over the years, and for the rest he mostly got the problem solved. That's pretty successful.... -- if you want to mail me at work (you don't), use arjan (at) linux.intel.com Test the interaction between Linux and your BIOS via http://www.linuxfirmwarekit.org - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/