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From:   Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
To:     Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH hid v11 14/14] Documentation: add HID-BPF docs
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Date:   Wed, 26 Oct 2022 07:44:30 -0600
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Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@gmail.com> writes:

> The wordings are somewhat confusing, so here's the alternative:

I've been kind of ignoring these editorial comments of yours, but this
bit of bikeshedding kind of exceeded my threshold.

> diff --git a/Documentation/hid/hid-bpf.rst b/Documentation/hid/hid-bpf.rst
> index ba35aa2e2ba836..c59bce4b9cf214 100644
> --- a/Documentation/hid/hid-bpf.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/hid/hid-bpf.rst
> @@ -27,88 +27,89 @@ Assuming you have a joystick that is getting older, it is common to see it
>  wobbling around its neutral point. This is usually filtered at the application
>  level by adding a *dead zone* for this specific axis.
>  
> -With HID-BPF, we can apply this filtering in the kernel directly so userspace
> -does not get woken up when nothing else is happening on the input controller.
> +With HID-BPF, the filter can be applied in the kernel directly so that
> +userspace does not get woken up when nothing else is happening on the input
> +controller.

How does a shift to the passive voice help here?  What is the problem
you are trying to solve?

> -Of course, given that this dead zone is specific to an individual device, we
> -can not create a generic fix for all of the same joysticks. Adding a custom
> -kernel API for this (e.g. by adding a sysfs entry) does not guarantee this new
> -kernel API will be broadly adopted and maintained.
> +Of course, given that dead zone filter is device-specific, it is not possible

                       ^
Missing article -------+

> +to create a generic fix for all of the same joysticks. Adding a custom
> +kernel API for this (e.g. by adding a sysfs entry) does not guarantee that
> +the API will be broadly adopted and maintained.
>  
> -HID-BPF allows the userspace program to load the program itself, ensuring we
> -only load the custom API when we have a user.
> +HID-BPF allows the userspace program to load the program itself, ensuring that
> +custom API is only needed for edge cases (like esoteric joysticks)

That (beyond the missing article) changes the meaning of the sentence;
it no longer really makes sense.

I'll stop here.

Bagas, I've asked this several times: *please* stop trying to tell other
contributors what to do and, instead, focus on contributing something
useful yourself.  You seem to have the energy and interest to do
worthwhile stuff - please do that!

Thanks,

jon