Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755436AbXHCEsj (ORCPT ); Fri, 3 Aug 2007 00:48:39 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752037AbXHCEsb (ORCPT ); Fri, 3 Aug 2007 00:48:31 -0400 Received: from dsl081-033-126.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.33.126]:45734 "EHLO bifrost.lang.hm" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751972AbXHCEsa (ORCPT ); Fri, 3 Aug 2007 00:48:30 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 21:45:54 -0700 (PDT) From: david@lang.hm X-X-Sender: dlang@asgard.lang.hm To: Ondrej Zajicek cc: Jan Engelhardt , Michael Tokarev , Herbert Rosmanith , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: renaming kernel devices [was: VIA EPIA EK: strange eth dev numbering] In-Reply-To: <20070802145152.GB19346@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: References: <200708021056.l72Au722008603@wildsau.enemy.org> <46B1BEB8.70104@msgid.tls.msk.ru> <20070802145152.GB19346@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1146 Lines: 27 On Thu, 2 Aug 2007, Ondrej Zajicek wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 01:47:23PM +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: >> It does not rename ethX to the "next free" one, but to a _persistent_ one. >> If it were a "next free" thing, then removing a card would shuffle all >> your eth around again (and invalidate your iptables rules at the same >> time, to note). > > It is questionable what is _persistent_ . MAC-based names are persistent > with regard to adding and removing of other cards, 'Plain' names are persistent > with regard to replacing that card with different item (of a same kind). > > I am very happy that (using 'plain' names) i can send technician to > replace broken NIC in our routers without need for configuration > change. this is a very important point, and with the distros (and many kernel people) treating udev as a requirement this is going to bite a lot of people. David Lang - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/