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[198.145.64.163]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id pj7-20020a17090b4f4700b00212e60c7d9csm2986668pjb.41.2022.10.27.11.58.36 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 27 Oct 2022 11:58:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2022 11:58:35 -0700 From: Kees Cook To: Alexander Potapenko Cc: Peter Zijlstra , Marco Elver , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton , Dave Hansen , x86@kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/uaccess: instrument copy_from_user_nmi() Message-ID: <202210271155.33956B1@keescook> References: <20221025221755.3810809-1-glider@google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 11:26:50AM -0700, Alexander Potapenko wrote: > On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 1:05 AM Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 11:38:53AM -0700, Alexander Potapenko wrote: > > > A bigger issue from the NMI perspective is probably > > > having __msan_poison_alloca() inserted in every non-noinstr kernel > > > function, because that hook may acquire the stackdepot lock. > > > > *urgghhh* that's broken, that must not be. There is a *TON* of NMI > > functions that are non-noinstr. > > __msan_poison_alloca() is guarded by kmsan_in_runtime(), which is > currently implemented as: > > static __always_inline bool kmsan_in_runtime(void) > { > if ((hardirq_count() >> HARDIRQ_SHIFT) > 1) > return true; > return kmsan_get_context()->kmsan_in_runtime; > } > > I think the easiest way to fix the NMI situation would be adding "if > in_nmi() return true"? It might help to look through these threads: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220916135953.1320601-1-keescook@chromium.org/ https://lore.kernel.org/all/20220919201648.2250764-1-keescook@chromium.org/ I wandered around attempting to deal with in_nmi(), etc. And in the end just drop the attempt to cover it. It's worth noting that copy_from_user_nmi() exists on 1 architecture and has exactly 1 call-site... -- Kees Cook